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Obviously, the most discussion worthy part of this chapter is the Hisagi & Tousen conversation. Which I loved. But I read through my fingers. xDD When Hisagi caid "Captain Tousen", I literally jerked back from the computer. Omg. The significance of that. Remember Matsumoto's doubts when Momo referred to Aizen as 'Captain Aizen'? I bet none of the Shinigami thought Hisagi would do that. Ahhh, I'm loving this. I always said that I thought Hisagi was just as screwed up by the betrayal as Momo and Kira were. Glad that Kubo actually went there! :D The hint that maybe Tousen has been screwing with his mind for longer than we thought is awesomesauce. <3 I can not wait for the coming chapters as more is revealed.

I'd say more about the possible outcomes and what stuff means, but my new friend [livejournal.com profile] cairnsy has a really awesome entry about it right here. Go read that instead, it's good. :)

Now let's see, the rest of the chapter.

AHAHA TAKE THAT, WONDERWEISS. *cheers for Mashiro* ... yeah, no, I still haven't gotten over the fact that he gutted my favorite character. *sulks* Even though he's cute. xD Besides which, I highly doubt he's staying down for long... and I still haven't decided on which interpretation of Gin's line I'm going with. :3 Was he talking about WW or Mashiro? I'm leaning towards Mashiro, just 'cause I know WW is sooo not done for yet. And I'm guessing Gin would know that...

On that note, GIIIIIN <33333. *flutters about* ILU GIN. YOU CREEPY BASTARD, YOU. >D

LOL of course at Hitsugaya and Hiyori. The fight was hilarious. xD But not as hilarious as it could've been if I hadn't been in a WTF?!?! state of mind... what was Hitsugaya thinking? I don't understand. At all. Why did he say that?! O_O

... I do totally support HitsuHiyori, though. :3 *giggles* He apologized! And his faces were so adorable. *hearts*

Lisa was so freaking awesome, I love her. <3333 I WANT FIC NAOW. Anything. :3 I like LisaShunsui yes yes yes. But Lisa/Halibel would be hot, ahaha. xD And it's all [livejournal.com profile] vraieesprit's fault that I like Lisa/Rose too. xDDD

I liked the Hacchi and Soifon scene. I totally am on board with some history there. I like what [livejournal.com profile] wdboldstar said over at [livejournal.com profile] bleachness...

I have to admit, I'm getting all sorts of crack theories about Hachi and Soifon running through my head now. I sort of like the idea of Hachi coming to the 2nd Division to discuss Kidou with Yoruichi, and always having a pat on the head and a kind word from Soifon, who was outwardly grumpy but secretly liked it. And Hachi, being understanding of Soifon's deep bond with Yoruichi because of those visits, understands with melancholy that she may never forgive him for being the cause of her exile.

It's cute and sweet. D'aww. Hacchi did look particularly depressed when she rejected him. D: I wanted to hug him.

Also... ILU BARRAGAN. You are the most badass creepy thing evar. And you have the best lines. Guh. My favorite this chapter was "everything is equal before me". It sounded kind of like Kubo trying to say something sorta profound? Because Barragan is time. So yeah. <3 Can't wait to see where this goes!

It made me sad that we didn't get to see Rose, Love, or Starrk, though. D: Oh well. Next week, mayhaps?

*flits about the room*

Discussion Questions:

1) Who do you think Gin was referring to in his "poor thing" line?

2) Do you think Wonderweiss is a Vasto Lorde? Or at least that he's amazingly powerful? If so, what do you think the fate of Mashiro and/or Kensei will be?

3) Where the heck are Yumichika and Ikkaku?!

on 2009-08-02 01:24 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ravens-rising.livejournal.com
LOL YAY LONG COMMENT <333

I love that stuff we didn't know about Tousen is coming in. Before, all we knew was Tousen + Justice, basically. But aha, he's got more depth than that. xD He's all evil villain-y too. xD Despite what it seems on the service, he's actually extrememly screwed up. I like your point about him justifying everything he did, while the others aren't. Funfunfun.

OH GOD I DID TOO. 'VICTORY'! >DDD

I totally got the same impression about Kira and Matsumoto. I think Matsumoto knew Gin a whole lot better than Kira did, in the end. To her I don't think it was really betrayal of SS... just Gin being Gin, and leaving. That's what he does.

OMGSH THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. xD I was so confused about why Hitsu wanted to go get Aizen. I had forgotten that Aizen had just appeared to him (it's been a couple weeks to us readers xDD). That makes sense. Thanks. xD But YES. HitsuHiyori is so fun! :3 He apologized, teehee. :)

I WANT LISA TO KICK MAJOR ASS. I'm even willing to sacrifice seeing Shunsui for Lisa kicking ass. xD Some people think that Lisa is going down, and that's when Shunsui (and maybe Jyuu) will come back. D: But I don't want that! I want Lisa to be awesome. D:

Yeah, it's probably just general bad feelings toward the Vizard, but I kind of like the idea that maybe poor Hacchi knew her particularly. He seemed so sad. *pats him*

Ooh, I don't know. That might 'cause MAJOR effects, if Aizen had never existed? Eep. Suddenly I want to write this massive amnesia fic where no one but Orihime remembers. Um.

LONG COMMENTS ARE OUR FRIENDS. :D

on 2009-08-02 03:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by (Anonymous)
<333

I'm really very interested in Tousen now; like you said, all we knew about him was that to him everything =/= justice. I really need to reread the SS arc where he has his flashback about his friend; can you remember what type of justice was preached to him? Because Tousen's justice comes off as a very personal justice these days. There also doesn't seem to be the same worship of Aizen we've seen before hand; maybe he's becoming cocky what with ruling over the arrancar with an ironfist?

What's odd about the trio though, is that Gin doesn't really treat Aizen like a God, does he? He treats him as though speaking to a friend or a brother. Maybe it's just the way the are, but always struck me odd that Tousen treated Aizen like Jesus incarnate while Gin, who is so much younger, treats him like he would anybody else.

I KIND OF LOVE MASHIRO MORE NOW.

THIS. She grew up with Gin, you know? He gave her a birthday etc. whereas Kira was simply just his subordinate. I think Raginku might be the only person, besides Aizen, who really knows Gin's character. Gin being Gin, and leaving. That's what he does. I think that's it exactly; they have an interesting relationship, i'd like more back story on those two.

YOU'RE WELCOME. I was wondering why everyone was like WTF SHIRO while I was like, "But Aizen was in a ball of fire for a while and he fucked up his best friends head, and now he's out of the ball of fire...". I like how effortlessly Hiyori just brings him down to her level. :'D They need more interaction.

I WANT LISA TO KICK ASS TOO. I'm also hoping that if she gets her ass kicked to the ground, her hollow will take over. The Vaizard are all about how the whipped their hollows into obedience, but we know through Ichigo that doing that is kind of impossible. Maybe through that we can see Shunsui being all kinds of horrified and Hiyori just being like OHSHI-.

I see what you mean ): She looks kind of embarrassed and angry too, doesn't she? It might be her pride being inuslted over the fact that she needed help, but maybe not. KUBO, WE NEED BACKSTORY HERE PLZ.

I was meaning Barragan, BUT OH YOU RAISE SUCH A VERY GOOD POINT. Orihime's power is basic in structure; attack, defense, heal. But we know it's so powerful that she can literally reject fated events, which makes me think that if she were pushed enough to have a killing intent, that maybe she could reject someones existance? If she did, I think the punishment for such an action would be that she be the one burdened with remebering all that happened. OOOH, I kind of like this idea. But you're right, there would be the aftermath of the war and no one would really know what the hell had happened, only that they had been fighting arrancar? Maybe it'd cause a paradox? :S CONFUSING.

I'm wondering what the hell the Soul King is doing while his existance is being threatened. Maybe he's doing a DBZ like power up or something.

OH THEY ARE, I'M SORRY FOR GIVING YOU ANOTHER ONE. APPARENTLY I CAN'T HELP MYSELF.



on 2009-08-02 03:13 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] iamlolweasel.livejournal.com
THE ABOVE WAS ME D: LJ FAIL.

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